A Piece Of My Mind... I Think

I want to talk about the recent things that happened in the forum. I want to share how I think about them. Before expressing my feeling, I want to be clear that I’m not disagreeing or supporting certain people’s opinion or targeting certain people. These were all my personal thought, and I’m not good at expressing with words. I don’t want to cause any conflicts or hatred, treat this post as me venting. If it has offended you, just ignore this post.

The first thing I want to talk about is recent situation in vehicle suggestion. People have been arguing since the new rule for suggesting vehicles. When suggesting cars, people have their own standard. Like adding stats, blueprints, etc. However, some of them ended up being low-effort, nonsensical suggestions that’s don’t any chances to get added into the game. As for me, I didn’t really care about the chance of getting added into the game when I was on my suggestion frenzy. After suggesting over 1K suggestions, I slowly to realize how difficult for devlopers to pick a car to add into the game since some of my suggestions had little to no infomation on the Internet. So I started to chaging my suggestion standard from mindlessly suggesting to thinking of devlopers(finding a stuff with sufficient infomation, but still not adding stats cuz I’m lazy lol).

Another thing that affects my feeling is the some of the users there. I’m not talking about their personality. I’m talking about their acts that is a bit too harsh for me, despite they’re not talking about me. Some of the people’s word usage and attitude are really p#####g me off, and starting to have some negative thought on them. I’m a post liker, obviously. but I see some people mocking post likers liking posts for no reason, and that hurts me a lot. Despite that, I keep my impluse to argue with them because it’s not worth the time to mad at them.

That’s all I want to say, it feels great to spill this all out.
Hope you guys have a good day :)
Cheers!

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Actually since I learned about the existence of post likers I gave myself the mission to make them think “I’m a post liker, but I’m not going to like that”. I tried lots of things, but I haven’t succeeded yet unfortunately :wheeze:

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And I won’t succeed now

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Honestly for the suggestions thing, I just personally find it annoying how people will spam suggestions of stuff that won’t get added because it fills the category so much that devs will never even have a chance to see any of the cars people actually want in the game, and I think that that takes away from the likes of others. I imagine many others feel the same, though some people seem to struggle with voicing this opinion without sounding like a condescending asshole.

With the post liker thing, I honestly haven’t seen any genuine insults from anyone and I feel that the NPC posts which Stormlend has made are just jokes and weren’t intended to cause any harm toward anyone. I personally don’t care, I think it’s kind of funny how quick posts can get liked, and it also works as knowing if people have seen a post yet.

Anyway, that’s all from me, just wanted to share my opinion on the matters which you’ve discussed.

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Yes

And yes

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It’s my force of habit now, sorry.

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I feel that. When I stopped post liking, it took a good few weeks to break the habit. I stopped because it was just something I didn’t feel like doing anymore and I wanted people to know how I actually felt about things.

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Honestly I might stop post liking too, mindlessly liking posts is kind of weird when I think about it and I might go back into suggesting things too to break the habit (although if I do start suggesting again they will be legit).

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just please dont mindlessly suggest stuff just because you wanna see the number go up :sob:
it genuinely ruins the quality of the suggestion page, its like when that one person in your neighborhood refuses to mow their lawn or take care of their house and it just destroys the value of the entire area
and when multiple people do it, you basically get detroit

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I won’t, I usually used to suggest stuff that I actually wanted in-game

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well spoken, I feel like I probably could’ve fixed these issues with the vehicle suggestions a fair bit sooner, but I just kinda left it alone thinking that the problem would fix itself (in a way you could say I was laissez faire about the whole thing)

now obviously, modding a lot of suggestions has taken a bit of a toll on me (moreso now because I’ve gotten into summer school, and I’m more busy than I would like to be with homework sometimes), but at some point you just get complacent with some of the shit that happens that you don’t even bat an eye to whatever happens, which in hindsight was a big mistake, as it allowed a lot of stuff to get out of hand

this forum (or more specifically the vehicle suggestions category) shouldn’t have been treated as a place where you got to boast over others because of your achievements, it’s just a place to put whatever cars that you really want ingame, and I think that people have started to get the wrong idea into their heads that suggestions should be made to boost a number on your profile, not for cars that you genuinely want to see ingame, and this has caused a fair amount of damage in the category that I had not recognized until recently

I’ve started to understand the frustration of others and their suggestions, I still think that people have the right to suggest whatever they want, but now I think that this should only be done within proper reason, obviously you aren’t going to get a drivable 2x4 wood plank with zero engine ingame, but at the same time, it’s entirely possible for some crazy ass bosozoku build ingame, there’s a lot of ambiguity of what’s possible, or what isn’t, and I think this has allowed some things to get a lot more rowdy than what was the norm back then

new users can be a bit chaotic at times, there’s no denying that, but it’s also the new users that tend to break the norm and start to open up the eyes of others that there’s a lot more things that you can really do, and it’s these people that make me realize how some of this forum’s guidelines were only really meant for the community at the time, and what was really the norm of the time

these new users could be considered as the people who started to get a lot more crazy with vehicle suggestions, euph and DatDudePlays were the two people who went ham with these suggestions, and it all started off fine, until it wasn’t…

it started to get to a point where things weren’t being suggested because people wanted to see these new interesting cars ingame, but just to inflate profiles which started a shift towards quantity over quality, which is something you definitely don’t want to see clogging up vehicle suggestions, and it wasn’t until recently that we started to take action to this until more people than it should’ve been started complaining about the lack of guidelines for vehicle suggestions, and from that point, it’s just been what it is right now

I have to emphasize that while this really isn’t anybody’s fault as people have their own self-interests to what they think suggestions really are meant for, there still should’ve been action taken against this, while I’m not going to speak for the other mods in this case (and honestly I really am one of the worst people to be representing the mods considering some of the stupid shit I’ve done in the past), suggestions should never come at the cost of somebody else’s browsing experience, which like I said, is something that I’ve failed to realize until recently, and it’s something that’s kind of opened my eyes over this whole situation

now I’m not going to spend all of this time over vehicle suggestions, as there’s also the fact about behavior on the forums that I need to cover

there’s a whole lot of talk about opinions, whether it’s on cars that people suggest, the people here, or whatever may be discussed, it’s starting to become a bit of a battlefield of insults towards others simply because of disagreements, and it’s starting to get a bit ridiculous and petty

now obviously, all of us are mindful enough about our word usage to keep things neutral and for the most part, everything is pretty civil until it isn’t

under no circumstances should anybody be insulted for an opinion they share or reply to, that’s just a basic lack of respect for whatever somebody wants to share to others, and I think that some people have gotten a bit too comfortable about talking shit about others, which obviously means I’m going to be more stringent about how people are talking and being civil in the first place

I’m not going to talk about this whole thing too much further considering this is one of the longest pieces of text that I’ve typed out on the forums, but just to sum it all up (or as a TL:DR for those who just want to get straight to the point without explanation), some people get a bit too far off the rails when it comes to suggesting things within proper reason (and without clogging up the suggestions), and some people need to stop shit talking opinions, other people, or anything up for debate

I hope this does give a bit more insight to what I’m thinking about the forums at the moment, and I hope that this doesn’t come off as too confusing considering I’m typing this during my summer school class lol

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ill admit some of the stuff ive suggested is strange and i do regret suggesting some things
but that doesnt mean all of my suggestions are shit just because of 1-2 bad ones, i just tend to like any vehicle i come across no matter how strange it is or by looks since i find them interesting. not gonna name names here but i have been on the receiving end of shit talking just because of my opinion and i don’t appreciate it

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yeah I do think that some people here have received some flack and hate just for having a different self-interest/opinion compared to others, which is something that definitely needs to be worked on

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i mean tbh though there’s just too many damn suggestions overall and so many of them are of cars that probably will never get added since there’s no blueprints or good reference images to make them accurately

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It still nice to hope your pretty much just telling people not to suggest at that point.

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also if i like old regular cars and any car in general so what? theres nothing wrong with suggesting stuff i find interesting
look at stillgett’s suggestions for example, he suggested a bunch of regular cars so whats the issue with having the same view as him
i feel i have received the brunt of the shit talking

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no that’s not at all what anyone is saying

if a car is nearly impossible to make without botching it, even for a good modeler, it’s just gonna get ignored
and when you see thousands of suggestions like this, it just clogs up the entire category and makes finding suggested cars that actually have good references online really difficult

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Exactly I also find older mundane cars more interesting. They were mundane but now they are classic making them kinda special.

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yea

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I don’t understand what you mean by references but I kinda get it.

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