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Let the open debate happen dude

Argument does always equal bad

Nothing changes if debate gets silenced immediately

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can you stop stretching this out
making a follow up post just to complain about it isn’t gonna help you

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Also addressing the previous argument I wanna make my case here why I believe I’m in the right with evidence to back me up

Let’s start by answering the reason why I even made the topic in the first place. I wanted to talk about how my ignorance led to me to loosing out on rare titles and rims and I wanted to see if anyone else had stories to share about similar experiences. I also evidently joked about finding Panwellz to talk to him and offering to buy people’s accounts. I did not intend to seriously find panwellz or buy people’s accounts or try to be a comedian to everyone. What I did intend to do was be silly, talk about experiences, and just have fun with others in the community.

Now let’s talks about where the drama begins. The drama begins with STR Energy ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #28 by STREnergy

Here he claims that I’m making terrible jokes or that I’m being pathetically sad which is just a complete misread of everything. I wasn’t trying to be funny or actually trying to meet Panwellz I was just being sarcastic and goofy and trying to represent how I feel about not having the roles, stupid and wishing for a way they can be obtainable again. It’s very evident that STR brought drama and toxicity into my post. ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #30 by ckapka

I reply saying that Panwellz actually probably wouldn’t consider me a complete stranger if I were to show up and introduce myself but I had no plans of doing any of that. My reply was more of a mild correction and was in no way toxic to anybody.

Now alanz gets introduced to the post and at first he does nothing wrong and only states the obvious in a fair way ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #46 by Alanzcool

I don’t reply to his post however because as previously said he is stating the obvious and I agree with him that finding Panwellz will be basically impossible

Alanz then made similar other messages that I don’t reply to because they are correct but unfortunately he starts to get personal with me

As we can see here he basically starts to misinterpret the entire situation and started saying that this is all ragebait and a dumb idea and an unfunny joke. We see how he went from just stating the obviously to now evidently being toxic spontaneously.

Me identifying the issue and NOT WANTING TO STRETCH IT (will be important later) I reminded him that in no way he is forced to continue being part of this post and he has fully authority to leave it ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #68 by ckapka

However he insists on trying to understand the topic ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #69 by Alanzcool

I reply telling him that non of those were my intents for this post

STR then jumps in and claims I’m ragebait which is not my intent and he hasn’t provided evidence saying elsewise.

I respond telling him he is absolutely free to feel this way but also clarifying that I’m not trying to ragebait ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #76 by ckapka

Here you can evidently see that I’m not trying to stretch anything but rather make sure my intentions are clear and that toxicity doesn’t continue

Then alanz makes this response ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #77 by Alanzcool

My problem with this response was not that he was asking what my intentions are but rather giving me 3 negative options to pick from

I then decided that the toxicity happening in the post was enough so I made this response calling him out ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #80 by ckapka

Here I said that he was taking this too far with the toxicity and I called him out for overreacting and appearing frustrated

He then makes his reply and before I address his first point let’s answer, was I gaslighting alanz?

Here is the definition of gaslighting: manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanityor powers of reasoning.

You guys can decide with the evidence I provided if I was gaslighting him

He separated by asking where he got frustrated but before I could respond other things started happening

Though you can see from my perspective why I believe he was behaving in a manner that makes him appear frustrated

Then Euph calls me out saying that now I’m being the stretcher which isn’t technically wrong but let’s understand the context here

they were being toxic

I tried to be as respectful and collective and calm as I could be to descalate

They still were toxic

I had to pick between letting myself be disrespected or calling them out and standing up for myself

Then alanz says this ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ - #85 by Alanzcool

My question to alanz is I would love to have told you what my intentions were but you gotta ask nicely

You can’t give me three negative choices and expect me to always try to be respectful to you alanz

You could have just asked what my intensions were leave it at that and none of this would happened

then Cosmo locks the post which is a different issue

As you can see here with evidence I provided my case

Let’s talk about this

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If you choose not to read all of this that’s fine but please don’t engage in the conversation without my case then I would love to hear your case so we can talk

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Also if we wanna talk about this point

If TurboOnz got banned then so should Cosmo

I would love to start that too

I believe there is a lot of bias in the forums here and toxicity and even abuses of power and I wanna call that out

Mods if you wanna suspend me you can but I’m not breaking rules I’m bringing up important stuff that needs to be addressed

We can handle this maturely or immaturely

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wtf going on with yall

everytime i see an unread, my phone explodes

Plus, everytime neither str or cosmo closed those type of shi

Im tired of this

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im done

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May you elaborate please i want to understand your message here better

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This doesn’t solve the issue tho

The main reason I know is because of a reply (or a topic should I say) that can trigger their angry side or make them negative on the person who posted it

But there’s not really a clear explanation why this happens a lot

It’s mainly a decision whether we close the topic or not, but for arguments, the mods just calm them down or give them a warning

Sorry if it confuses you since I am not a type of guy who makes long posts (or make you negative about it)

That’s all for me

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sometimes
it’s better to say nothing at all

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True

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what happened to the forum
2 years ago it wasn’t like this with arguments happening everyday

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oh well
i’ve said my 2 cents about this, cya
all i can do is hope ckapka doesn’t start up another argument here and get all of us suspended

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Good thing I wasn’t involved cuz my account would be cooked

Let’s just pray he doesn’t cause that shit again

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facts

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quit digging your own grave

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then just say that?
instead your attempt to be sarcastic about it completely falls flat since it was not made obvious until this very post which is FAR too late
people can’t read your mind and can’t know if something was a joke or not
(1) (2)

you continued with these “sarcastic jokes” throughout the entire topic and you expect us to somehow know you were joking about it the whole time despite never making it clear until the end, even when people asked beforehand (3 → 4)

this is entirely on you and yet you play the victim and say everyone else was at fault

only thing i’ll admit to was my initial response, i probably should’ve toned that down a little

as for the post being closed, it was to prevent the situation escalating further, which you clearly didn’t realise since you made this

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wasn’t 2 years ago when turbo was around

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nvm it was a bit earlier than that

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this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read :face_holding_back_tears:

(psst mods maybe close this before an actual argument starts)

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